Atum_Ramirez
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Thanks for your opinion Kaiser, and for reading a long post xD
I think you may have not understand me on some points.
I didnt suggest that things should be easier on non donators. I suggested things should be harder on donators. I have no problem with me having 1/8000 odds to get a shiny, or not having enough money to buy uber pokes. I'm fine with what the game gives me actually. All I say is that the game should be more equal between donators and non donators, not that non donators should have things easy.
It was not my intention to complain. I'm sorry if you understanded that way. I love the game and that's why I play it. I only made a suggestion on making the game more equal, not easier.
A token costs 1,5Million each right? So a person that donates 1$ gets almost instantly 1,5Million. How much time would a non donator need to accomplish that in PWO? As I said, I don't want things to get easier to me, I just think that 1,5Million gained by donating 1$ is not balanced compared to the time i need to get that money ingame. ( Or maybe Im playing badly the game..)
If we go the pvp point perspective of view, you are tottally right about it. But some users will want pokes in the token store just because they like them. Noone will buy a wurmple for competitive battling xD I just wished that some UC pokes could be removed from the token store and be put in the wild. Could even be wurmple xD But you are right about the battling stuff.
Again, I didn't say that I have a problem with what I get in the game. I'm fine with the game gives me, and I think that I need to spend a lot of time in game to get a good team. My issue was with people being able to sell tokens, and have enough poke$ to buy a good team in no time. All they need theoretically is 4 badges if they start in johto, and they can easily buy a team. So I have no problem with me having to invest a lot of time in the game, my problem is with the easyness of donators to get the goodies xD
I only "went that path" (I'm sorry if it insulted you in any way) just to show that it is possible to have a MMO with less benefits for donators, and still being able to pay for the everyday bills. Note that I think PWO is superior in may ways to pokeMMO which I stated before in my post.
I also talked about customization, not because I wanted (couldnt care less actually), but because it could be a way to make people donate money to customization, instead of donating money to get pokes that otherwise are not obtainable in the game.
I completely agree with that statement. People should work for what they want, though I don't think that accusing others of being lazy and wanting things handed on a silver plate, or leaving MMO are a valid argument for the discussion.
In my post I didn't asked for benefits for non donators. I simply suggested that the game could be more equal, by lowering the benefits donators can get.
I don't think it is balanced to make quick money by selling tokens. I don't think it is balanced to have 4x probability to encounter a shiny.
I agree with you about the UC pokes, but my "gotta catch them all" spirit spoke higher than me =P
As a conclusion, I wanted to focus on Donators benefits, not on non donators xD Non donators should be fine with what they get by the game, but the fact that donators get those things much more easier, may be unbalanced, and create 2 groups of players. Also I didnt wanted to say that the game should be easier to me or to non donators, only more equal and more balanced between the two classes.
I think you may have not understand me on some points.
Kaiser6tn said:So you say that if one doesn't donate he should be handed things on a silver plate.
I didnt suggest that things should be easier on non donators. I suggested things should be harder on donators. I have no problem with me having 1/8000 odds to get a shiny, or not having enough money to buy uber pokes. I'm fine with what the game gives me actually. All I say is that the game should be more equal between donators and non donators, not that non donators should have things easy.
Kaiser6tn said:If I wanted things I'd work for them not complain and see what comes from that
It was not my intention to complain. I'm sorry if you understanded that way. I love the game and that's why I play it. I only made a suggestion on making the game more equal, not easier.
Kaiser6tn said:About the token store, a non donator can buy pokemon from there as well, given he works his way to get enough money to secure tokens.
A token costs 1,5Million each right? So a person that donates 1$ gets almost instantly 1,5Million. How much time would a non donator need to accomplish that in PWO? As I said, I don't want things to get easier to me, I just think that 1,5Million gained by donating 1$ is not balanced compared to the time i need to get that money ingame. ( Or maybe Im playing badly the game..)
Kaiser6tn said:As a matter of fact the ivs will leave much to be desired more often than not so once again I can't see your point.
If we go the pvp point perspective of view, you are tottally right about it. But some users will want pokes in the token store just because they like them. Noone will buy a wurmple for competitive battling xD I just wished that some UC pokes could be removed from the token store and be put in the wild. Could even be wurmple xD But you are right about the battling stuff.
Kaiser6tn said:Now going to the pvp point, not every battler costs a fortune, there are quite a few that are cheap and easy to get by, you can build a competitive team on those regards if you know how to balance it properly.
Again, I didn't say that I have a problem with what I get in the game. I'm fine with the game gives me, and I think that I need to spend a lot of time in game to get a good team. My issue was with people being able to sell tokens, and have enough poke$ to buy a good team in no time. All they need theoretically is 4 badges if they start in johto, and they can easily buy a team. So I have no problem with me having to invest a lot of time in the game, my problem is with the easyness of donators to get the goodies xD
Kaiser6tn said:If you're going down that path I could give you an example of another Pokemon MMO where being member had a drop of rarity rates in general, not only on shinies. Also character customization is planned to be possible on the next Playerdex update though I'm not really sure on this one.
I only "went that path" (I'm sorry if it insulted you in any way) just to show that it is possible to have a MMO with less benefits for donators, and still being able to pay for the everyday bills. Note that I think PWO is superior in may ways to pokeMMO which I stated before in my post.
I also talked about customization, not because I wanted (couldnt care less actually), but because it could be a way to make people donate money to customization, instead of donating money to get pokes that otherwise are not obtainable in the game.
Kaiser6tn said:Once again if a player wants something they should work towards their goal and not expect to have things handed to them on a silver plate. Lazyness and MMOs simply don't match and if they can't understand that then they shouldn't be playing imo.
I completely agree with that statement. People should work for what they want, though I don't think that accusing others of being lazy and wanting things handed on a silver plate, or leaving MMO are a valid argument for the discussion.
In my post I didn't asked for benefits for non donators. I simply suggested that the game could be more equal, by lowering the benefits donators can get.
I don't think it is balanced to make quick money by selling tokens. I don't think it is balanced to have 4x probability to encounter a shiny.
I agree with you about the UC pokes, but my "gotta catch them all" spirit spoke higher than me =P
As a conclusion, I wanted to focus on Donators benefits, not on non donators xD Non donators should be fine with what they get by the game, but the fact that donators get those things much more easier, may be unbalanced, and create 2 groups of players. Also I didnt wanted to say that the game should be easier to me or to non donators, only more equal and more balanced between the two classes.