Hey everyone! Were all invited to Blurise's Pitty party!

[darkshadow.]

Why these posts are made? It has no construtive value.. only to hurt others! If anyone has some problems with somebody , they talk to he or she. These things are destroying the "already parcely-destroyed" community.. I miss the old community too! I think we were more friendly to everyone and we could have really good fun If everyone can help to re-built this community.. lets do it ok? Please

 

[matileo19]

Love or hate him Lee has done a lot of things for this game and community alike. So if there isn't nothing nice too say then GTFO!

Also I don't give a damn if i'm hated that's all. I never cared for the community when i was staff all i cared for is the content i helped create.

Your's Truely,
LordBelemuel

If you don't care about the commuity, then I think you don't deserve to be a part of the staff... Being a part of the staff means hat you must care about the community, think about it...

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I won't say that you are right or wrong Wareagle,but you will have a greater impact on the community if you say things with more softness, try it out next time.
Lee... every staff member has to deal with stuff like that, its obvious that a part of the community will love you and the counter part will hate you, you shouldn't care and thats it, no need to make a topic or you'll end doing what Shane did. I'm sure that you don't want to be in the position of seeing hundreds of players begging you to come back or stay or... apologizing on behalf of those who have offended you.

What I have to say is that no one knows what happens indoors the staff, don't blame others without proof...

 

[Tha-Kram]

let parents take care of their children, theres no need for the staff to do that
why would you care about those haters anyway?

 

[HitmonFonty]

Like why dont you explain to everyone why Fly and Surf werent implemented when Shane offered to easily put them in game.

This is a good question. Fly hasn't been implemented due to a deliberate policy to us the transportation system instead. If you or anyone else doesn't believe this is extensive enough, please suggest improvements.

Surf hasn't been ruled out but like many TMs they provide an opportunity to add more interesting content to the game in the form of quests. If we just open up a shop with all TMs/HMs we will have wasted the opportunity to add all that extra cool stuff to the game.

Introducing features fast sounds great, and it is exciting, no question about it. We need more than just to throw the fixes into the game though, they need to be integrated in with some thought. A couple of examples:

PP- could be added tomorrow, could have been added years ago. Is the game ready for it? Do we even want it? If we want it do we put it into the game exactly as it was in the handhelds? And what are the consequences if we just add it in without considering the above questions?

Natures, Abilities and EVs- All the above could be questions could be asked for them too. The consequences being the biggest question. As it stands the current staff could add these in, it has been considered in the past. Shane could add them in faster, and he did start to do this as you know. But it's our job to consider the consequences of adding them into our version of the game- it's not just a matter of plonking them all into the game. We have to consider not only how it will effect the game from now on but how it will effect the pokemon that are already in the game. You know the issues, and adding them in without consideration to the bigger picture would cause far more of a fuss and bad feelings than the recent shiny nerf did since it would effect EVERY pokemon, not just the shinies.

Shane is awesome at making the game work better, but for some updates that is only half the job. And it is far easier for us to do our part if we know what the update is going to be ahead of time. This is why we've restructured our staff so no staff group works in isolation but as part of the team as a whole under the Project Manager. The Devs need to be part of that team structure as much as the rest of us or there is no plan, just chaos.

To note, Bluerise is not the Project Manager. The staff restructuring actually takes decision making almost completely away from him. He will only reject our plans for the game if there are technical reasons to do so as a rule.

For my part I still have hopes that emotions can cool and we can work together with Shane properly at some point. I do have that streak of idealism in me.

 

[Future~Sight]

For once in his lifetime, Blue mentioned a small part of his life, and you're acting like he's been crying all over for it.
And why is it that everything comes back to Shane? Are we really that stubborn?
He's gone. Poosh. Whoosh. And PWO is back to the crap it was. Live with it, or don't.

 

[AFLAX41386]

This is a good question. Fly hasn't been implemented due to a deliberate policy to us the transportation system instead. If you or anyone else doesn't believe this is extensive enough, please suggest improvements.

Surf hasn't been ruled out but like many TMs they provide an opportunity to add more interesting content to the game in the form of quests. If we just open up a shop with all TMs/HMs we will have wasted the opportunity to add all that extra cool stuff to the game.

Introducing features fast sounds great, and it is exciting, no question about it. We need more than just to throw the fixes into the game though, they need to be integrated in with some thought. A couple of examples:

PP- could be added tomorrow, could have been added years ago. Is the game ready for it? Do we even want it? If we want it do we put it into the game exactly as it was in the handhelds? And what are the consequences if we just add it in without considering the above questions?

Natures, Abilities and EVs- All the above could be questions could be asked for them too. The consequences being the biggest question. As it stands the current staff could add these in, it has been considered in the past. Shane could add them in faster, and he did start to do this as you know. But it's our job to consider the consequences of adding them into our version of the game- it's not just a matter of plonking them all into the game. We have to consider not only how it will effect the game from now on but how it will effect the pokemon that are already in the game. You know the issues, and adding them in without consideration to the bigger picture would cause far more of a fuss and bad feelings than the recent shiny nerf did since it would effect EVERY pokemon, not just the shinies.

Shane is awesome at making the game work better, but for some updates that is only half the job. And it is far easier for us to do our part if we know what the update is going to be ahead of time. This is why we've restructured our staff so no staff group works in isolation but as part of the team as a whole under the Project Manager. The Devs need to be part of that team structure as much as the rest of us or there is no plan, just chaos.

To note, Bluerise is not the Project Manager. The staff restructuring actually takes decision making almost completely away from him. He will only reject our plans for the game if there are technical reasons to do so as a rule.

For my part I still have hopes that emotions can cool and we can work together with Shane properly at some point. I do have that streak of idealism in me.

1.) Fly - So what you're saying here is Fly would render the transport system obsolete (as it should) be way more effective (as it should) and basically eliminate a sink in the economy, and the reasoning being "a deliberate policy to use transport instead." aka because we said so. I don't think that is a good enough reason. If you have 16 badges, you should be able to fly wherever you want, especially if you want to implement stupid quests associated with new content that have you traveling all over creation just to talk to a random NPC or find some items.

2.) Surf/New Content - Some of us don't want to do a quest every time a new TM/HM is released. Quests should be associated with the majors (fly, surf, strength, etc, ones needed to progress in the game) but otherwise, just sell them in a shop or a move tutor like in the game. PP should be left away, at least for now until the battle scene is more balanced. I think the biggest reason for this backlash is as follows.

Shane's constant updates breathes new life into the game and its players, after years of longing for new updates and progress.

Lee's responses to this (as observed by me of how the community reacts, not saying this is my opinion) appear to be dictatorish, as in, it needs to be his way or the highway despite the fact that Shane is a co-owner of the game.

People who are enjoying these updates, and are helping Shane to test them (for those saying Shane wasn't testing things, you are wrong.) are angry because this sudden stream of updates is gone and PWO is back to being stagnant and annoying.

The biggest updates (PDex & Client) haven't been done for years despite promises of them "being released at the end of this month".

For those complaining about this all, players saw a light at the end of the tunnel regarding the development of this game with Shane at the helm as it pertains to updates. Explain to me how PDoD managed to have a fully functional game with everything PWO lacks in a matter of months, with a much smaller staff, and much less time devoted to developing the game? I don't think this is so much a personal vendetta as it is that players want to see progress, and Shane represents progress because of the breakneck speed inwhich he makes updates into the game.

3.) Shinies - this is off topic but you mentioned the Shiny nerf and I have to ask why? What is the point of nerfing shinies? Why would you ruin the one good thing PWO has going for it? The staff was able to jack up prices and create the token store charging 15 dollars for 1 pokemon because of the shiny craze, and now you're killing the shiny craze which I think is the one reason so many people still play this game. (For those who were not here before the "token store" it used to be that you donated 5 dollars, got to choose whichever poke you wanted catchable or not, and membership was also 5 per month. I refuse to use the token store after this change because paying 15 USD for a pokemon is ridiculous but, outside the scope of this conversation.)

 

[TheWyatt2012]

It's surprising to me that people feel the need to complain about PWO over and over again. Almost everyday people come on IRC and complain about the server being down. Alongside that, I occasionally see topics on the forums that tunnel a lot of hatred toward the staff, saying stuff about how "their decisions are ruining the game".

And yet, why? What draws people to PWO, I wonder? What stops people from simply leaving PWO and moving on to other games? Everytime I tell someone on IRC that they should just play another game while the server is down, they say "but I want to play PWO". Where is the logic in that?

It's intriguing that suddenly people are complaining about PWO just after Shane has left, when in reality Shane has been MIA for at least a couple of years, and even when he was here it was only sporadically; he had military obligations. Sure, there have been plenty of topics in the past several years about the state of PWO, but nothing that has ever reached the scope of what I have seen recently. Now death threats are being made towards one of the most dedicated staff members to this game. No I'm not kissing Lee's ***. No I'm not saying that Lee is a good staff member simply because I'm around him all the time, as many people in guild XATs would like to say, as they have noted me as an "IRC buttbuddy".

I'm not going to sit here and sugar coat the developmental progress of PWO. I myself am aware that it is lacking. And I'm not talking about adding or updating content. I'm not talking about adding quests and TMs and fixing moves. I'm talking about the server and a major engine overhaul that I believe PWO needs. Yet, we haven't seen that in years. Yet, here comes Shane the messiah who is going to supposedly fix everything and make PWO a quality game? Does anyone really believe that he can do that himself? Sure, maybe the playerbase did increase, maybe having Shane did give new light to PWO. But having more players doesn't mean the game is suddenly better than it was before.

Why don't people like the OP here just play something else?

 

[I.Am]

And yet, why? What draws people to PWO, I wonder? What stops people from simply leaving PWO and moving on to other games?

Because of the brand 'Pokemon'. If PWO is some random weird MMO i already left this game long time ago. Everyone loves Pokemon and I didnt want to leave my cutie S Donphan alone here.

But to be honest Lee got a point, he sacrificed a lot for this game, his time, life, etc. At least we give him some love despite his slooww progression compare to Shane.

Time to sleep. Wake me up when update Implemented.

 

[Saurus]

Geez mad30 (Bobo), you're as unintellectual as ever. Rotfl.

 

[TheWyatt2012]

And yet, why? What draws people to PWO, I wonder? What stops people from simply leaving PWO and moving on to other games?

Because of the brand 'Pokemon'. If PWO is some random weird MMO i already left this game long time ago. Everyone loves Pokemon and I didnt want to leave my cutie S Donphan alone here.

I'll be brutally honest here, I have seen a couple of Pokemon MMOs that are more stable and are more developmentally ahead than PWO. I won't mention any names. I personally have only played them for a bit before stopping because I got bored of replaying 3rd gen games over and over again. PWO is not the only Pokemon MMO around.

Geez mad30 (Bobo), you're as unintellectual as ever. Rotfl.

You should just leave. You offer nothing and contribute nothing to any discussion that you have included yourself in. All you have done in the past month or so is created a storm of ******it about the staff that no one gives a crap about.

 

[Pretentious]

First of all, there are certain things you should never say—regardless of whether you're joking or not. Bluerise never truly felt threatened (hopefully?) by the kid's "joke," but the problem is that he shouldn't have to deal with that kind of stuff anyways.

My question is: Why wasn’t the user simply banned? There is no place for that language in a game that states in the opening sentence of the webpage that it is a “family-oriented game.” Secondly, why was that SS posted? The website also claims, “Since we're family-oriented, we attempt to preserve a child-friendly atmosphere by removing inappropriate or adult content that may somehow find its way into our server space.” However, this isn’t even an isolated incident. The game chat is constantly inappropriate. I personally don’t care because I’m an adult, but some people apparently do….

I've played this game off and on for years due to the nostalgia factor stemming from its likeness to the original Pokemon games. Obviously that makes me older than the majority of the community. If you haven’t noticed, most new players have never even played the original games. They grew up with, or ARE growing up with, Pokemon games with features that will never be conceivably possible in a fan-made game with limited resources. Which leads to another question...

What is the goal for this game? Even with the limitations and rapidly declining community, this game (and the others) will always have potential as long as Nintendo doesn’t release a Pokemon MMO. You should embrace this fact, not alienate yourself from the community. When I first started playing this game it was BY FAR the most popular Pokemon MMO—the server was constantly full. I’ve been back for a month or so now and I rarely even see it above 50%. The lack of updates certainly has a lot to do with this, but the REGRESSION of the game has more to do with it.

Like someone else mentioned, the removal of features from this game destroyed the unique elements which made this game different. To recap:
-Nerfing the shinies. Ummmmm why? They’re supposed to be the most valuable Pokemon in the game. I could debate this for ages, but I’m slowly wrapping up my rant.
-Increased TS prices. I understand needing money, but those prices are criminal. LOWERING the quality of Pokemon while INCREASING the price? Whoever made those decisions should be ashamed of themself.
-Removal of the Auction House. Coolest feature this game ever had. Where’d it go…?

In closing, I really do want to know what the goal is for this game. With anything fan made, you create it in the image of how YOU, as the developer or member of the staff, want it. The staff isn’t supposed to cater to the needs of the community. It’s their game. They make the decisions. The resulting game is just a reflection of what they want it to be. And the current Pokemon World Online is.. ehhh… :/

BTW- This isn’t a hate rant. I enjoy this game for what it is, and I have nothing against its staff. I’m just curious.

 

[I.Am]

I'll be brutally honest here, I have seen a couple of Pokemon MMOs that are more stable and are more developmentally ahead than PWO. I won't mention any names. I personally have only played them for a bit before stopping because I got bored of replaying 3rd gen games over and over again. PWO is not the only Pokemon MMO around.

I know. You already answered your own question. No one want to start all over again in another Pokemon MMO and some of us like me already spent a lot of money to this game so its hard to leave all our 'property' here. I dont know what you means stable because other Pokemon type of MMO ( wont mention name. shhh ) is really lag and limited content, of course they have some advantage but meh.

 

[Pez~]

Geez mad30 (Bobo), you're as unintellectual as ever. Rotfl.

Well that's news to me, mad30 is bobo Saurus? You are a genius figuring that one out I sure couldn't.

 

[Saurus]

Geez mad30 (Bobo), you're as unintellectual as ever. Rotfl.

Well that's news to me, mad30 is bobo Saurus? You are a genius figuring that one out I sure couldn't.

Why thankyou. I sure couldn't say with confidence that you're one too <3

Geez mad30 (Bobo), you're as unintellectual as ever. Rotfl.

You should just leave. You offer nothing and contribute nothing to any discussion that you have included yourself in. All you have done in the past month or so is created a storm of about the staff that no one gives a crap about.

Thankyou for voicing your opinion about me but sadly, no one gives a crap about you either. And I don't create a storm of 'blah blah blah' about the staff. They made a stupid mistake and Shane left. But i'm glad that you're like the rest who seem to track what I do here because no one else gives two ****s except you, oh, and that other MAD thing. Bye now.

 

[BRGodEastwood]

The community use to be one of the best quallities about pwo, now it's the worst. Fact that players are stating death threats and making post like this to the only person keeping this game afloat not only proves that, but how irrational and ignorant this community has become.

The only reason hes the only one "keeping the game afloat" is because hes a power hungry mongrel who wants all the glory and none of the blame, while not allowing anyone to take on the roles that he is too incompetent to handle. I have no pity for him.


To further expand, the reason the staff had a severe lack of direction, or lack of production, is not their fault. Really, it isn't. Its on the admins. You have one admin (bluerise) who is creatively inept, has terrible communication skills, and does not work well with players. He does not know how to manage people, and he cant distribute roles. He is not a recruiter (because he spends almost no time in game, so doesn't see which players are interacting well with the community, who has what skills, etc), and honestly cannot learn to bypass obstacles presented in his way. If it wasn't for the rest of staff, the game would be dead. Not bluerise. To top off the matters, Bluerise is a stubborn mule, who does not want to distribute power to those who can help take on roles he is incompetent of handling, unless you literally blow his cheeks. He's a monarch in his own mind. He had a chance to make an ally, who could help smooth all this out for him. His own arrogance, and him putting himself above the game, led to him disrespecting the person who came in good faith, to try and get the community back on staff side. Bluerise deserves everything said to him, until he stops being an arrogant prick, and learn to swallow his ego.

Secondly, sure PWO is a team, but if PWO is a team, Jinji is its mascot. Throughout my 5 years there, this guy did literally nothing. He was easily manipulated (judging by how easily shadowwolf got him to ip ban me from every single facet of the game with no trial or appeal until Zammbi stepped in. He would afk or leave our MSN meetings early, and he helped foster the notion that once you're staff, you do not have to do anything. Jinji has been an Admin since 2008? He stopped contributing towards 2009. There was a point in time where no one even wanted to give him server access for fear he'd **** **** up. The guy does nothing, is dead weight, and still parades around acting like hes this and that. He claims to wear hats such as "mapping leader" or the more recent "head of recruitment" but all of this is a facade.

For everyone championing Bluerise (and whoever champions Jinji, although i doubt theres any of those left) they have more negative qualities than positive. Lee
s biggest contribution, is maintaining the donation system. He does minor server updates, database updates, and playerdex updates. That is ALL hes good for. And he is the reason PWO has remained stagnant, and will remain stagnant for years to come, unless more creative minds are placed at the top of the food chain. Bluerise is not a leader, just posing as one. Until he gets out of his stubborn ***, and stops treating PWO like his personal kingdom, this game will be stagnant, and he'll deserve every criticism he gets. If there were more admins than just him and jinji, threads like these wouldnt be happening.


EDIT: also, its funny how someone makes one death threat (because of lees own doing) towards lee and he gets a bunch of his fanboys jumping and defending him and xyx, meanwhile when i had to deal with constant death threats and harassment from latino players such as michaelleroi, i was left high and dry by staff, no one came to my defense, i didnt make no pity post, no one even batted an eye. and then months later, i was demoted due to "attitude". I hope bluerise looks in the mirror, and realize the **** hes going through now, i went through 10x worse, and i didnt make a pity post. i guess karma really does exist.

 

[KaiReborn]

It's intriguing that suddenly people are complaining about PWO just after Shane has left, when in reality Shane has been MIA for at least a couple of years, and even when he was here it was only sporadically; he had military obligations. Sure, there have been plenty of topics in the past several years about the state of PWO, but nothing that has ever reached the scope of what I have seen recently. Now death threats are being made towards one of the most dedicated staff members to this game. No I'm not kissing Lee's <img src='./images/smilies/censored.png' alt='Censored'>. No I'm not saying that Lee is a good staff member simply because I'm around him all the time, as many people in guild XATs would like to say, as they have noted me as an "IRC buttbuddy".

I'm not going to sit here and sugar coat the developmental progress of PWO. I myself am aware that it is lacking. And I'm not talking about adding or updating content. I'm not talking about adding quests and TMs and fixing moves. I'm talking about the server and a major engine overhaul that I believe PWO needs. Yet, we haven't seen that in years. Yet, here comes Shane the messiah who is going to supposedly fix everything and make PWO a quality game? Does anyone really believe that he can do that himself? Sure, maybe the playerbase did increase, maybe having Shane did give new light to PWO. But having more players doesn't mean the game is suddenly better than it was before.

Why don't people like the OP here just play something else?

Please don't go victimizing yourself over what happens on xats, owners there are free to make the choices they pretty much want.
Now onto the serious topic, while it is indeed true Shane was away for a long time, it is also true that once he returned he did many changes in a short time. And most players here couldn't care less about any potential staff squabbles or something like that. They want progress, preferentially something that can be visible and Shane did that in a short time. It should have been expected many players would end up 'taking his side' based on this and honestly, nobody can blame them for that. Because if the time spent before Shane's return can be used as a base for something is that while there might be progress, such progress will occur at a very slow pace. The amount of time which we have been waiting for the new playerdex is actually a good example of that slow pacing (it has been a work in progress for years after all).
I'll give you this much though, unsatisfaction should be no reason for such a 'hate train'. That people aren't satisfied with the way things are currently is understandable but there are better ways to voice a disagreement than through 'hate campaigns' against those who have kept the game going while Shane wasn't around. Sure it may have been pretty much of a standstill most of the time, but they still stuck around.

 

[TheWyatt2012]

Guess I'll continue this pointless drama train about a Pokemon game.

I dont know what you means stable because other Pokemon type of MMO ( wont mention name. shhh ) is really lag and limited content, of course they have some advantage but meh.

I'm talking about a specific Pokemon MMO.

But i'm glad that you're like the rest who seem to track what I do here

I don't "track" you, you just decided to go on IRC and trash talk everybody.

EDIT: also, its funny how someone makes one death threat (because of lees own doing) towards lee and he gets a bunch of his fanboys jumping and defending him and xyx, meanwhile when i had to deal with constant death threats and harassment from latino players such as michaelleroi

Alright, so first off, I really don't think anyone here is a "fanboy" of Lee. He has stuck with the community for years and has been more active than Shane has. Aside from this one death threat (I'm pretty sure there have been more anyway) the staff in general gets constantly harassed by banned players, and they get called idiots, morons, etc. You yourself should know this. I don't agree with you receiving death threats either, nobody should.

As for the rest of your post, it seems like you're just bitter that you lost your Admin position.

Please don't go victimizing yourself over what happens on xats, owners there are free to make the choices they pretty much want.

I'm not really sure why you even mentioned this. The CC incident was not an isolated incident. I have dealt with a lot of harassment because people think that I'm a "spy" coming from IRC. Because apparently I have something to gain from a Pokemon game? The CC issue was simply the icing on the cake.

 

[matileo19]

EDIT: also, its funny how someone makes one death threat (because of lees own doing) towards lee and he gets a bunch of his fanboys jumping and defending him and xyx, meanwhile when i had to deal with constant death threats and harassment from latino players such as michaelleroi

As for the rest of your post, it seems like you're just bitter that you lost your Admin position.

Lol what is this? Looks like ''fanboys'' does exist after all, and I was against to believe it.
Bis knows more than you could, he has been a part of the staff, I've also been a part of the staff and I know there's some truth on what he says, probably a crude way of saying things, I don't agree with everything but meh.

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How could anyone believe capable of insulting a member of pwo? What gives you the rights to do that? Why you do that? Who are YOU to do that?

Well, this may be directed to the player insulting an staff member as many of you can guess, but this may also go to the actual main leader that made a topic about a player offending him. I've seen him ''insulting'' players too, in a way or other, with sarcasm, no sarcasm. So isn't the insulted player able to make a topic against the one that insulted him? What are you going to say? That he deserves an insult for... using a hack maybe? For... being angry? Aren't the feelings very similars in one point? Why not? Think about it...

I'm completely against that guy's comment, he doesn't deserves a bann, he deserves a lesson. I'm also against the way YOU (plural) treat players, despite the fact that some DESERVE it, some DON'T, this CAN'T be equitative, you (plural) have a RANK, you (plural) are supposed to give an example, its not like you've done it lots of times, but you've done it and thats it.
Zammbi's era was pretty much more controlled than it is now, there was a very but very good leader called Crenel with an amazing group on his back, including Bluerise (before being an admin), what happened to the old school?

 

[BRGodEastwood]

What you don't know, little child wyatt, is after the events, and the blackballing of shane and myself, and the way they handled the situation, IM the one who apologized, and offered to help them get back on track, make improvements to the game, and give them direction. If I was bitter about losing my Admin rank, why would I want to help the people who took it from me? Because unlike Bluerise I had the games best interest at heart. I sat down with Naero and Zebra, and told them I'll let bygones be bygones for the way I was treated over the years, in the name of helping out the game. We discussed the idea of myself coming back as an apprentice that would eventually become Admin once I integrated back in. I had several ideas policy wise, and game wise that would improve the overall structure of the game, among other things. Several staff actually were behind me coming back in this sort of role. Bluerise immediately says no (without even hearing what I had to say personally), that I would not be allowed back on staff, and even if he did allow me back, he would pidgeonhole me in a rank where I wouldn't be able to make progress to the game. I swallowed my ego and put the games interests first, Bluerise put his interest first. Its not in Bluerise interest to share control over his dominion.

His actions actually show you why Shane promoted me to Admin without asking him in the first place. This man is egotistical, doesn't have the games best interests at heart, and he treats PWO like its his palace and hes the king, which is evidenced by the fact HE feels he was undermined by the games OWNER. He doesnt care about what any of the players have to say, which is why he gets treated like this. He doesn't care about player enjoyability, which is why the dragons den quest was down right retarded at its inception. He just wants to do everything he wants to do, and does not want to be told what to do. He doesnt even like Pokemon! How do you have a leader who doesn't even know anything about the game hes administrating. Bluerise never played PWO as a reg, rather stuck his face in the wiki. He doesnt realize his shortcomings, his flaws, or his lack of knowledge of what would make a pokemon mmo enjoyable. Instead of surrounding himself with people who cover his flaws, he surrounds himself with his yesmen, and friends. When someone does something without asking him, or disagrees with his actions, they get forced out (shane) or gotten rid of (myself). Bluerise deserves every bit of heckling until he learns to park his ego at the door and learn to stop being a tight ***.

Furthermore, the fact you can't even take my comment seriously shows you are a fanboy, wyatt. Also fact is, you are an IRC spy. Everything said on xats about lee, you ran and told him. I have several witnesses, which is why I banned you from any xat I was apart of. Looks like CC xat did the same.

 

[TheWyatt2012]

How do you have a leader who doesn't even know anything about the game hes administrating.

Perhaps you're right about Lee. I would say in general he does have little knowledge of Pokemon in general. But so did Shane a couple of years ago. Maybe Shane has expanded on his game knowledge, but I can certainly tell you that in the beginning he had little to no knowledge about Pokemon.

Also fact is, you are an IRC spy. Everything said on xats about lee, you ran and told him. I have several witnesses, which is why I banned you from any xat I was apart of. Looks like CC xat did the same.

Where do I even start here? First of all, I haven't actually held a conversation with Lee for at least a year. The IRC, believe it or not, is pretty dead nowadays, and I spend most of my time playing League and doing things related to that. The one thing I relayed from XAT was a joke that someone made about Lee secretly being a woman, which I thought was funny. Apparently everyone lost their **** over it and started playing the blame game. Please show me these "witnesses" that you have, as I hardly ever talked to anybody in the community to begin with. Along with that, I hardly ever talked in Blaze XAT because I had nothing to say. Most of the time I was in CC or Blaze XAT I wasn't even paying attention to it. The reason that I returned to CC XAT was because there was some token drama that I heard about. Plus, I hadn't seen many of them in at least a year. The reason that I stayed was because I figured out that many of them played League, so I stuck around to play with some of them. I visited Blaze XAT because someone in CC XAT said there was a lot of drama going on in the chat, particularly because Shane was there.

I was not banned from Cryptic Complexity XAT. HOF threatened to ban me if I did anything to "compromise the secrecy" of the guild's XAT. He didn't say it in such an intimidating way, but you get the point. I personally decided the leave CC XAT indefinitely, because I realized that they started picking up on your "Wyatt's a spy" ******it.

Tell me Bis, what do I have to gain from relaying information from a XAT? I don't relay people opinion's from XAT on to IRC, because I simply don't give a ****. Many of their opinions I share as well. In fact, most of those players opinions are so general and common that the staff already knows about it just by reading the forums.