Delete the "Ban Appeals" tab

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vaiokh

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There's no reason to post an appeal of a ban .

1 - The GM 's are attributable , are not liable to error , are Gods on earth .

2 - Even if the player has not done anything, and they said you did then you did .

3 - Even if there is no evidence , several GMs agree with the ban , saying :

" I have seen the evidence ... bla bla bla .... I agree with the ban in place . "

4 - Even without evidence , they will agree with the evidence .

5 - They can not show you the reason for the ban .

6 - They are the masters of reason .

7 - You do not have any chance , even proving that did nothing and proving that the ban is unfair , they say :

 "This appeal has been denied I'm afraid . You will not be getting an unban . "

Ie, there is no escape , better delete the tab appeals , why in the PWO my friends , there is no judgment.

They will not waste their time or reading the post , silly us who are here , spending money and time .

I was banned without having done anything , my topic was closed and there is no answer, much less evidence on the subject .

8 - I am impressed with the FAIR trial that is designed in here, I'll even cry with emotion.

Ie, there is no reason for that tab exists, I suggest removing the same forum, since the moderators are too busy responding to us.
 

Tecknician

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We actually do reduce or remove bans upon players repealing thank you very much.

1/10. Try again.
 

Saurus

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And this is why your ban appeal topic was locked. You are disrespectful and rude. But you seek leniency and want to be unbanned. If you were caught cheating, accept the ramifications of your actions. But even then you get another chance to open a new account which is what the PWO GM's/Admin offer the players who have been banned in the past for the very thing you perhaps did.

All you're doing now is whining and complaining because things aren't going your way. Just open a new account and play again.

But if you keep trolling like this with new posts, i'm afraid you will possibly get a forum ban. Just my opinion. :)
 

Rigaudon

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http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=281276#pid281276

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http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=166220#pid166220

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http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=271714#pid271714

http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=269160#pid269160

http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=260373#pid260373

There are more.
 

EcoWOLFrb

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You're personally biased here because you were banned, you're angry and letting it get the best of you. No one would listen to a suggestion like this seriously unless it was unbiased. I've seen people get unbanned so it's not pointless, but it's usually not for things like botting... that is fairly obvious. People are more likely to be angry because they thought they were doing a good job of covering up their botting, I don't believe the vast majority of people are innocent in general, this does not exclude you.
 

vaiokh

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I think that would facilitate the ctrl + c, ctrl + v, of the moderators.

I think it was better to delete.
 

Havock

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Well i agree with Vaiokh 100%. once banned, never unbanned, i was banned because of illegal programs but i took print at the moment i was banned and guess what? im still banned! Even with proves, they completely believe that i was hacking, i wasnt teleported, Puar banned me only seeing my character moving, but guess what? he is no longer gm, and im glad too, because he sucked as gm!

IF you want check it:
http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=19397&p=178726&hilit=sppartk#p178726
Happy New Year for all
 

Bluerise

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Havock said:
Well i agree with Vaiokh 100%. once banned, never unbanned
Yeah, yeah. I agree - I mean I didn't unban a few accounts the other day, did I now?
 

vaiokh

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But it's true, Havock, GM's come in and out, who continues us. I've never seen someone be unban in 900 hours of gameplay and 300 posts in the forum, it will not be now that I see.

* Except ridiculous cases like that "Rigaudon" quoted.
 

Tendou

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First i don't agree with the deleting of it before the playerdex update, if there is a ban appeal there is a way to remove the ban. IF you ain't aware Bluerise unbanned a few accounts that were banned due the battle crash exploit after giving to him the steps and reasons and then Bluerise matched 'em with the evidences and checked it was true what players said. I would also like to agreed about this:

Saurus said:
And this is why your ban appeal topic was locked. You are disrespectful and rude. But you seek leniency and want to be unbanned. If you were caught cheating, accept the ramifications of your actions. But even then you get another chance to open a new account which is what the PWO GM's/Admin offer the players who have been banned in the past for the very thing you perhaps did.

All you're doing now is whining and complaining because things aren't going your way. Just open a new account and play again.

But if you keep trolling like this with new posts, i'm afraid you will possibly get a forum ban. Just my opinion. :)

Everyone that go back and read your post will see thats the above quote's is true. I do't really want to discuss how your appeal were cause you ignored what was said in that appeal so u will ignore what im saying and will answer me back about your appeal.


Anyways, like I said, if there is a ban appeal means there is a chance to tell them what you were doing BEFORE the ban and not during/after the ban so they can check if that info is true, it was said many times in your appeal that they don't share the evidences so none of normal players can see how they check the evidence furthermore causing an exploit where future players were able to know to avoid this.
 

ArcticSun

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vaiokh said:
There's no reason to post an appeal of a ban .

1 - The GM 's are attributable , are not liable to error , are Gods on earth .
I have made mistakes before, and have corrected them when either made aware of them, of informed by others.
vaiokh said:
2 - Even if the player has not done anything, and they said you did then you did .
A lot of players seem to go into ban appeals and lie to try and save face. It is not unusual and human nature for them to do so.
vaiokh said:
3 - Even if there is no evidence , several GMs agree with the ban , saying :

" I have seen the evidence ... bla bla bla .... I agree with the ban in place . "

4 - Even without evidence , they will agree with the evidence .
There is always evidence.

I have had to become very good at compressing videos for ban appeals to sustain the amount of recorded evidence I have amassed over the past 9 months otherwise my computer dislikes me. Most of the time, maybe 1/5 of the people I ban never appeal, so I have hundreds of videos of people botting and hacking that just idles on my hard drive in the slim hope that they appear and appeal, which I will be prepared for as I save all evidence.
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vaiokh said:
5 - They can not show you the reason for the ban .
In basically every ban appeal I need to explain to the person that they know I banned them and why.

vaiokh said:
6 - They are the masters of reason .
Mods, not gods.
vaiokh said:
7 - You do not have any chance , even proving that did nothing and proving that the ban is unfair , they say :

 "This appeal has been denied I'm afraid . You will not be getting an unban . "
That is only posted once we believe the user has exhausted all their options to try and explain to us why they deserve to be unbanned.
vaiokh said:
Ie, there is no escape , better delete the tab appeals , why in the PWO my friends , there is no judgment.

They will not waste their time or reading the post , silly us who are here , spending money and time .
You do not need money to post on the forums. However we take everything into account when looking into a players ban appeal. They are trying to convince us to give them a second chance, or are trying to explain to us that we are wrong. Everything is read, and taken literally.
vaiokh said:
I was banned without having done anything , my topic was closed and there is no answer, much less evidence on the subject .
I have been extremely busy over the past 3 weeks. But I can look into your appeal once I am more free, and gather the evidence from the GM who banned you so I can properly assess the situation.

Just like every other ban appeal that requires a second or third Gm to look into. It's standard.
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8 - I am impressed with the FAIR trial that is designed in here, I'll even cry with emotion.

Ie, there is no reason for that tab exists, I suggest removing the same forum, since the moderators are too busy responding to us.
It would definitely make our work much easier if players stopped trying to flat out lie to us in appeals. Removing the ban appeals tab would probably solve that, or just let appeals eek out into other forums. So I believe the ban appeals tab should stay.

Everyone deserves to have their appeal heard and read.

It is their choice to lie to us though. We know what they did or some cases, didn't do.
 

altgr

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I particularly understand the point you want to get Vaio.

I know you're nervous too, and from what I saw on your Ban Appeal rightly. Has no apparent evidence.

Sorry.

However, I am not in favor of the withdrawal of the appeal tab.

Of course, we all know how that moderators treat Ban Appeals is precarious in more complicated cases like yours.

In my opinion, he wants to be mandatory disclosure of evidence and real motives. Brennan banned you for a guess, and that to me is not fair.

In short, I am not in favor of closing the tab, but I favor a fairer trial.

good luck.
 

pieoffury

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vaiokh said:
1 - The GM 's are attributable , are not liable to error , are Gods on earth .
Just because they are staff and have the power to ban rule breakers, doesn't mean they are "Gods". They are just keeping the community running smoothly.
vaiokh said:
2 - Even if the player has not done anything, and they said you did then you did .
Every banned player would always say they are innocent, every criminal does that unless he/she admits it. When they say you did something, then they have proof of that.
vaiokh said:
3 - Even if there is no evidence , several GMs agree with the ban
They ALWAYS have evidence when they ban someone. They are not abusers who randomly ban people. They judge people fairly.
vaiokh said:
4 - Even without evidence , they will agree with the evidence .
There is ALWAYS evidence when they ban someone.
vaiokh said:
5 - They can not show you the reason for the ban .
Of course they can't. If players get to see the proofs, they could find loopholes to their evidences.
vaiokh said:
6 - They are the masters of reason .
They are only humans, not gods.
vaiokh said:
7 - You do not have any chance , even proving that did nothing and proving that the ban is unfair
Several people have been unbanned when they have proven that they have done nothing illegal.
vaiokh said:
8 - I am impressed with the FAIR trial that is designed in here, I'll even cry with emotion.
They DO have a just system because they accept ban appeals wherein the banned person must present his defense to gain access to his account again.
 
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