Optimizing Elite 4 runs with Amulet Coin

GuiiHenrique

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Hello!
There's not much to explain. Team made up of only catchable pokes and low value TMs. The exception is for Houndoom that learns Dark Pulse only by Tutor but can be exchanged for Ninetales if you prefer. I also chose to use as few items as possible and chose to discard the Choices.

Grass Battle: There's nothing to explain.

Psychic Battle: The option to not change Houndoom's Ability makes Hypnosis no longer a threat. If you've already changed it thinking about PvPs, know that Taunt will solve your problem, but Houndoom is much more useful at e4.

Normal Battle: Protect should always be used on the first turn to prevent Electrode from falling to Crit. Fake Out by Ambipom. Volt Switch is for a safe switch and prevents Pursuit from dealing considerable damage. Dragonite must have at least IV 28 ATK, be equipped with an Expert Belt or Muscle Band, and have used Dragon Dance at least 5x to ensure Porygon2 drops into a Brick Break.

Dragon Battle: Theoretically, it's a little risky to use Cloyster here due to Garchomp's and Haxorus' Stone Edge, which if it Critical Hits it will take down with just one move. However, this did not present itself as a problem in my tests.

Champion Battle: Volt Switch only serves to guarantee some damage. Lapras cannot be frozen due to its Type, and Light Screen will grant you a few turns of safety to use DD.

Final Thoughts: The main goal of this team is to carry out E4 without too many difficulties and within an acceptable time (on average 10 min. per run), using only catchable Pokes with low commercial value TMs, making a team accessible to any player , whether beginner or experienced. Perhaps this objective has been achieved as this team has proved to be quite consistent, however I still prefer the team from my previous post.

Next challenge:
  • Team formed only with Captureable Pokes;
  • The moves used can only be those learned by LvL Up;
  • Completion of E4 within an acceptable time;
  • Allowed items: Amulet coin and Exp Share.
 

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Next challenge:
  • Team formed only with Captureable Pokes;
  • The moves used can only be those learned by LvL Up;
  • Completion of E4 within an acceptable time;
  • Allowed items: Amulet coin and Exp Share.
Your dragon dance lapras was a really smart choice. Were waiting for this bro, so everyone could farm in elite4 and buy something nice :)
 
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Here's my shot at an Elite 4 video...with some shine to it :cool:

I've also added links of the shared videos to the OP.

EDIT: The client skin I am using is a combination of the old Rocket Team one and the black one created by Klay. Unfortunately, the original downloads for those skins are no longer available. However, if anyone is interested in using this skin, let me know and I can upload it.
 
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Hi lamies. I want to share my latest e4 team so others may benefit. It needs some rare pokemons though, but fastest of mine so far. my record for a perfect run with amulet coin is 8.36. It is not %100 guranteed. here it is:

Houndom: nasty plot, flamethr, dark pulse
GorebEZ: shell smash, baton pass, hp spdef ev. slower is better. in both places it uses it is still slower, which is better for hera.
Heracross: Close combat, rock slide
Ditto: Instead of ditto scarfed outrage sala should work as well. But if haxorus or sala dances they may overspeed sala occasionally, ditto doesnt have this problem. but if a quick attack kills hera, sala is usually better to use.
Weavile: Icicle crash, ice shard.
Occasionally 100 or 200 hp potion

Grass: Houndom, simple.

Psy: Houndom. First nasty plot, then sweep. Dont worry for sleep cos exe's attacks are quite useless and leech seed doesnt do much cos other pokemons dies withouth healing. I failed a lot of times trying but in none hound died before sweeping.
Normal: Gorebyss, or rather, GorebEZ with amulet. 1 shell smash, 1 baton pass and scarfed hera sweeps. Commonly it doesnt need shellsmash but if it gets hit by low sweep hera will be slower then ambi. If hp is below %50 i advice using a potion. later frosslass may kill it.

Dragon: Weawile with iamulet. Hit hit hit! Usually it dies at sala or hydregion, sometimes at kingdra. At this point ditto is perfect. Die and let ditto use dragon attacks. If u need another dittoing u may throw hound as a canon fodder. Like if your ditto gets confused on sala, loses spatk after draco meteor etc. Weawile sometimes sweeps on its own.

Boss: GorebEZ with left overs, 1: shell smash and then baton pass to heracross(with amulet).. hera sweeps the rest. Problems that may occur here: 2 shadow ball, first lowering stat if hp is low and then killing the gorebEZ, freezing it or stone edge missing. If hera is just for e4 run i advice rock slide as it is enough (use close combat on arca). Another problem is if froslass spams destiny bond. If only-e4 hera is to be done i suggest endure or something else to pass turn.

This is so far my fastest run with amulet. Hope it helps. Problem is clamperl is rare and evo item of it is even rarer. Good luck and stay with gorebEZ.
 

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Hi lamies. I want to share my latest e4 team so others may benefit. It needs some rare pokemons though, but fastest of mine so far. my record for a perfect run with amulet coin is 8.36. It is not %100 guranteed. here it is:

Houndom: nasty plot, flamethr, dark pulse
GorebEZ: shell smash, baton pass, hp spdef ev. slower is better. in both places it uses it is still slower, which is better for hera.
Heracross: Close combat, rock slide
Ditto: Instead of ditto scarfed outrage sala should work as well. But if haxorus or sala dances they may overspeed sala occasionally, ditto doesnt have this problem. but if a quick attack kills hera, sala is usually better to use.
Weavile: Icicle crash, ice shard.
Occasionally 100 or 200 hp potion

Grass: Houndom, simple.

Psy: Houndom. First nasty plot, then sweep. Dont worry for sleep cos exe's attacks are quite useless and leech seed doesnt do much cos other pokemons dies withouth healing. I failed a lot of times trying but in none hound died before sweeping.
Normal: Gorebyss, or rather, GorebEZ with amulet. 1 shell smash, 1 baton pass and scarfed hera sweeps. Commonly it doesnt need shellsmash but if it gets hit by low sweep hera will be slower then ambi. If hp is below %50 i advice using a potion. later frosslass may kill it.

Dragon: Weawile with iamulet. Hit hit hit! Usually it dies at sala or hydregion, sometimes at kingdra. At this point ditto is perfect. Die and let ditto use dragon attacks. If u need another dittoing u may throw hound as a canon fodder. Like if your ditto gets confused on sala, loses spatk after draco meteor etc. Weawile sometimes sweeps on its own.

Boss: GorebEZ with left overs, 1: shell smash and then baton pass to heracross(with amulet).. hera sweeps the rest. Problems that may occur here: 2 shadow ball, first lowering stat if hp is low and then killing the gorebEZ, freezing it or stone edge missing. If hera is just for e4 run i advice rock slide as it is enough (use close combat on arca). Another problem is if froslass spams destiny bond. If only-e4 hera is to be done i suggest endure or something else to pass turn.

This is so far my fastest run with amulet. Hope it helps. Problem is clamperl is rare and evo item of it is even rarer. Good luck and stay with gorebEZ.
some updates:

Against normal: lead with hound with amulet and let it die. then sweep with scarfed hera. not usefull later anyway, no need to tire gorebEZ more which also stops to need of a potion.

@AsianKid suggested that instead of endure hera would be better with substitute.
 

GuiiHenrique

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Simple and efficient team
Team formed only by Catchable Pokémon and Moves learned by Lvl UP. The option to use items in battles except Amulet Coin and Exp Share has been discarded.
Not much to explain. Weavile can be exchanged for Gyarados which works perfectly fine, use whichever you like.
Identified Problems:
  • Champion NPC – In some tests Froslass was faster than Weavile causing Destiny Bond to become a problem. Gyarados DD is an excellent solution, but you run the risk of getting frozen with Ice Beam.​
  • Dragon NPC – Cloyster may struggle with critical hits, but it hasn't been defeated in my tests. Prioritize one with high defensive IVs.​

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Good and cheap team
It's the same video as my previous post. Dropped the option to use Choice Items. Houndoom only learns Dark Pulse by Tutor, however it can be replaced by Ninetales.
Identified Problems:
  • Dragon NPC – Cloyster may struggle with critical hits, prioritize defensive IVs.

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My favorite team
Update from my first post, now with a solution for Dragon NPC. I've never had problems with this team, but it uses Moves that can be difficult to get (which can be a problem for beginners), in addition to using Items found in the Battle Tower (which makes the need to have another one team).
Explanation:
  • Dragon NPC – Outrage is used to ensure that the NPC's Garchomp drops with a Move and doesn't use Dragon Tail. In case Salamence falls due to confusion, Scarf Dragonite with Outrage solves the problem. Garchomp and Flygon are also good options, but can suffer from NPC Salamence's Intimidate. If you're not confident with Dragonite, try Double Sala (2 Salamence on your team).​
  • Champion NPC – It is necessary for Weavile to use Swords 3x to defeat the NPC. If not possible, it will be defeated in Gyarados. If this happens Scarf Magmortar solves the problem.​

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Final Thoughts The objective of these teams is to carry out Elite 4 without too many difficulties within an acceptable time, presenting different options where their commercial values are taken into account, making E4 accessible to any player, whether beginner or more experienced.

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