Lets Have A Voting For Shiny IV's...,,

[Black.Magician]

Note : Al The Old Member, who have many number of shiny with good ivs(28+) , you have got the good ivs, and have an unfair advantage, so please, just don't think as old player, think what if you would be newbie, and when you joined the game, many people have there shiny collection and you need to make a team starting with crap ivs (20+)..
so please think in that manner...

So Please all the guys vote for these, so i can know a global view of the players, specially new ones....

 

[Tendou]

I won't vote considering this subject was already discussed and all my words are resumed with JD001's post located right there http://forum.pokemon-world-online.net/showthread.php?pid=310565#pid310565 if you didn't read the whole thread is ok, just consider that post cause it indeed resume the whole war against a thing that was being discussed and a few were present to discuss about it and now when the change was made people are thinking it was suddently changed but it wasn't.

Have a good one.

 

[The-Predator]

Having all 28IVs+ shiny is harmful for PWO and economy, never saw a pokemon game with shiny pokemon with 28 IVs+.Shiny pokemon should not be different in IVs to normal ones and i think IVs should be stated from 0-31 to have a balanced and normal game, shinies should be only for collection and if lucky, a decent battler

 

[Black.Magician]

Ok then lets have all fair, change all old existing shiny ivs (28-31) to the new ivs (20-31) randomly. then all economy will be in control, all thing will be balanced

 

[Black.Magician]

i means, this is a game according to old players, and economy should be kept balanced, so why not change old ivs which are ingame to random new ivs, then all people will be in same level now, old player has advantage of getting max speed out of 4 ivs and new player have disadvantage of getting them out of 11 ivs, so make it fair, make all old ivs shiny to to randomly new ivs shiny or just set the new ivs back to old one, we are happy in both case, but i want my old friends to support me in these cause, as when the case was in there favor, they spoke a lot and i want them to speak now

 

[The-Predator]

You cant ask for such, you cannot compare all the years that some players out there has been following this game to barely those days that new players have been playing (they usually leave after few weeks/months), that would be totally unfair for loyal people to this game, and i think theres no way to compensate and/or modify IVs to new system, as far as i understand, new people are complaining about new shiny IVs due to the collection stuff, shiny pokemon deals are usually S commons, they barely dropped their price, old IV ones are not even going for higher prices, but have u ever thought about those with shiny very rare or even horrible rare pokemon?? that would totally unfair for em, while new players can still get decent common shinies, although this was already discussed, not sure why players keep complaining if collection nor prices for S common pokemon hasnt changed at all

 

[Black.Magician]

no i think opposite of you, you people are quite protective, when it come to your shiny, your money is money and your time is time, but when it come to t=others they have got there money planted in planted or have stoled from somewhere, we are also spending our time in game, and what if this has been implemented from start, would you be loyal to these game then also, answer is yes, so i am just asking that convert it randomly so neither old player have advantage, nor the new player will get worried...

 

[The-Predator]

You are like this : "let me have old shiny IVs, if I cannot have then lets damage old players", Sorry but i cannot take you any serious because you lack real reasons, Old players dont have advantage over new players, they just have what they have worked for through all of the years, it is like if you want staff to remove the money from old players just becuase new people dont have the same like old players, you are lacking real reasons, and you just want old players to be the same like new players (that wont happen), dealing with new system is all we have left

 

[Pez~]

Where is the option for 1-31?

 

[Arnie]

Where is the option for 1-31?

Shhhh adamwe

While he is correct however there should be a poll option for that (comeon we dont want to be biased here do we? (wary)

Anyway i picked 20-32 (or whatever u put as the first one). i may not like the lower IVs but then its more of a surprise when i catch a good one and therefore feel happier that i caught a shiny at 25+.

 

[PhantomsCV]

Older players should have an advantage, they have been around longer and have spent hundreds if not THOUSANDS of hours into this game like a majority of the now "older players". Randomizing the 28-32 Pokemon to 20-32 is an absolutely horrendous idea. There is no reason that it should be done.

 

[Shiny-HoOh]

Having all 28IVs+ shiny is harmful for PWO and economy, never saw a pokemon game with shiny pokemon with 28 IVs+.Shiny pokemon should not be different in IVs to normal ones and i think IVs should be stated from 0-31 to have a balanced and normal game, shinies should be only for collection and if lucky, a decent battler

Where is the option for 1-31?

I agree with both of these people, shinies should be no different than normal pokemon, it wasn't different in the actual games so why should it be different in PWO?
Having shinies with 28+, 25+, and even 20+ as minimum IV's is just so wrong, because of the IV minimums on shinies people care more about the ivs on shinies the reason to even collect shinies. (The reaseon to collect shinies being they are different color and rarer than their normal counterparts)

Also I would like to point out that 32 IV's (I'm talking about speed) is hurting PWO's competitive scene due to the only people being able to afford these are the ones that pretty much buy their way into the game, so if it comes down to two base 100's the richer battler will most likely have that pokemon with 32 IV's in speed giving, imo, an unfair advantage over the other battler. (Yes, normal pokemon can have them, but you have a better chance of being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, or even catching a shiny rare.

As for the voting if you aren't going to add more possibilities (1-31, 5-31, 10-31, 15-31 being other possibilities; 32, imo, should never be possible) I won't be voting due to how biased the poll is.

Also as for old shinies I do believe that they should be changed to the same as new shinies, if anything it could help this current broken 'shiny' economy which is very one-sided.

 

[Black.Magician]

phantom CV, you say it is a bad idea of randomizing the ivs of caught shiny in game, as because you have spended money and time in catching a shiny HR, but i wanna know, that the new players will also be spending same time and money in game for finding and S HR, then why there result (IV) should vary, you may have hunted for Max SPD S HR and you were having a good chance of 25% ( either iv will be 28,29,30,31) of getting a Max spd S HR, but the new player will also same time and money but there chance of getting a S HR will be around 9.09% which is quite lower than your, i am just saying have a equality in game, either randomize the old ivs, or at least make shiny chances to 25+ so that chances of getting a decent shiny will be there, and as far as your time and money is considered, if the game has new ivs system from old time, you would have then also speended your time and money in these game, so just because you are older player that's not a point of benefit for you.

I have always seen people who doesn't wanna change on there part, they will always protect there point as you are now on changing your shiny ivs, but you people will always support the cause where your profit is there, and when it come to your loss you start behaving like a miser, who don't want to give there thing but want that other thing should be damaged

and now please don't say to me these line that it is mmo, changes are common, so i recommend one more change of randomizing all ivs, and all player will be under roof, why some people have greater head , it is a game just try to make every thing fair, either randomize old ivs or change new one to decent 25+

 

[Black.Magician]

Shiny Ho_oh i agree that they can set back IVs to 1-31, i don't have any problem regarding that, but as you only said, all in-game shiny should be randomize, to 1-31 to have a equal opportunity to all who are in these game.

 

[killanaddict]

reset current shinys isn't good idea for all, my vote for 28+ back. this update(20+ or 1-31) will work properly only with full wipe or after few years, when all players who keep 28+ will leave pwo, for now it's totally disbalanced market and increased gap between players

 

[Nikola]

Let me make one thing clear. You are constantly referring to shiny Pokemon as they were more supreme comparing to normal Pokemon. You are ignoring the fact that you are able to catch 31 or 32 IV Pokemon both shiny and normal. Just because you have to spend some time hunting doesn't mean that there is any gap between players regarding the IVs. You said that you need a lot of time to get such Pokemon, you think that previous 32IV Pokemon were given away like a candy? There was also someone claiming the same thing as you do but eventually, with the time they got 32 stated Pokemon. I can give you myself as an example. I had like 500/600 hours ingame and 32 stated Pokemon used to be dream for me, any random 32 stat not just speed. One day when I was stalking auction house I saw shiny Golem with several 32 IVs including speed and I bought it for 6 million. I've figured the difference between max and 32, difference used to be huge and 32 IV Pokemon deserved their title for being ultra rare to find. That was the era of battling where only speed was important due to broken battle system.

Today that is not the case, you don't really 32 IV Pokemon to achieve the victory. I can say with no doubt, I am probably the player with most 32 IV Pokemon on whole server and thinking about the time and effort I had to put to achieve this whole thing makes me laugh. For example...I have 2 Kingdras with 32 speed. I payed for one around 90 million (cheap) and another one I got in trade for my old max speed Kingdra and 32 attack and some cash. Funny fact...In more then 6 thousands hours ingame I only caught golbat with 32 IVs. Every 32 IV Pokemon I have was traded for. Maybe I was not able to directly catch those but I had both Pokemon and money as measure of my effort through 6 thousands hours across my accs to purchase 32 stated Pokemon among other Pokemon I wanted. With the time I obtained everything I wanted means I no longer have any interest obtaining an epic Pokemon.

In past 2 month I gave away more then most of you on this thread will ever achieve together. I dedicated my time to battling and leading my people through tough times. The same way I give to others the same way it was given to me. That is proper course and it will always happen. Eventually people will simply realize that some stuffs arent meant to be for sale, giving away to friends rather then selling. You don't count those when you are talking about gap between newbies and veterans. However, I sometimes think that the game system is set to mass produce butthurt players as it is spoon feeding them. Given the recent events occurred, staff and players might be temporary confused. However, I am pretty sure they are still able to see if they are doing what is needed or what people want. Wanting something is different then needing something. What do we often see in such topics is that people are butthurt wanting the change but actually they do not need it. They don't need it because they are able to achieve the goal. Wanting the change means you don't like to work as you are expecting to be served with a silver spoon. You want to achieve something? Ok, but you have to work for it. This is not the game about Socialism or Communism where every employer was getting the same payment no matter what was their productivity. That is one of the main reasons why those regimes are ancient and no longer effective.

 

[KaiReborn]

Oh boy, here we go again. I'll leave my two cents after I bother myself to read what's been said, getting real tired of your 'we want our spoon back' riots

Next thing you'll tell me these pokemon need their IVs randomized just because you weren't here to get them. Get real kid, this is a mmo not an example of communism, and in every single mmo older players have the advantage so if you can't understand that, don't play them

 

[Black.Magician]

to kaiser and darcia, my main concern you have not understand yet, i am not here to change all pokes ivs not the 32 ivs, my main concern is the changed shiny ivs of 28-31. i am talking about equality in game, if you were given a fair chance of getting 28-31 shiny pokes, we should also get it, the game is of equality so believe in that, why are you given advantage over us, we also have spend money which you have, so chances should be equal, thats it...

 

[KaiReborn]

I'll be quoting what I said on a similar topic

 

[GawertyXL]

this is not about equality, it never has been. New players weren't around for what us older players where around for. sorry, oh well. you don't like it, too bad. as it stands, we put our time, money, and effort, into getting what we have now, so if you don't like that, then why weren't you here? why weren't you doing the same as us, I guarantee if you where here as long as some of us, and had gotten a few of your favorite shinys with good stats, you wouldn't want them reset either, because you would have worked hard for them. that's the way of life. if you don't like it, don't play. simple as that~