Account reset?

[Unhallowed]

When PWO is out of beta, will all accounts be reset?

 

[Jinji]

The current plan is existing beta accounts will NOT be wiped; but will be moved to their own dedicated server which will not be updated (or only minor updates). Meanwhile a new server will go live as the "main", stable server; which will always have the latest game but for which new accounts, or new data must be made. This plan may change in future however, depending on events that occur up to the time of a stable release.

 

[Thychiz]

The current plan is existing beta accounts will NOT be wiped; but will be moved to their own dedicated server which will not be updated (or only minor updates). Meanwhile a new server will go live as the "main", stable server; which will always have the latest game but for which new accounts, or new data must be made. This plan may change in future however, depending on events that occur up to the time of a stable release.

This was quite interesting to hear, I had no idea that our accounts are not planned to be transferred to the new game. Is that info publicly available anywhere? I must have completely overlooked it.
It's a shame
But who knows, anything could change by the time the new client is ready for release. Wars have been fought and won in less time

 

[Naero]

The current plan is existing beta accounts will NOT be wiped; but will be moved to their own dedicated server which will not be updated (or only minor updates). Meanwhile a new server will go live as the "main", stable server; which will always have the latest game but for which new accounts, or new data must be made. This plan may change in future however, depending on events that occur up to the time of a stable release.

This was quite interesting to hear, I had no idea that our accounts are not planned to be transferred to the new game. Is that info publicly available anywhere? I must have completely overlooked it.
It's a shame
But who knows, anything could change by the time the new client is ready for release. Wars have been fought and won in less time

To note, the possibility of an account wipe will not necessarily coincide with the release of a new client. The client and database are separate, thus the existing database could easily be salvaged for the new client.

Once the game advances out of the beta stage, that is ultimately when a database wipe is planned, to my knowledge (which should still be stressed, the plan is subject to change, and there is still a lot of time before that point is reached). It will require more progressive improvements, more than just the release of a new client, to reach a standard that can transcend the beta stage. However, due to the interdependence between the server and client - requiring joint changes down the lines - a new, usable client is a step into that direction, since the current one can not be developed any further.

 

[Merse]

And so, you would ruin the effort of those who spent thousand of dollars to get tokens and get certain Pokemon with it. I already said in the past and I can only repeat: This would be simply unacceptable, and you would lose about 50% of your community instantly, from which 90% would be veterans.

 

[Bluerise]

I believe we have also stated in the past, nothing is set in stone.

 

[Merse]

Indeed you did. But i is important to influence you as much as possible

 

[Algiers]

And so, you would ruin the effort of those who spent thousand of dollars to get tokens and get certain Pokemon with it. I already said in the past and I can only repeat: This would be simply unacceptable, and you would lose about 50% of your community instantly, from which 90% would be veterans.

Oh, who cares? I have little respect for those who donate only to get advantages over others. If they lose their store-bought Pokemon, they just have to suck it up - after all, they still helped keep PWO up, didn't they? O

On the other hand, the "keep beta server, add empty normal server" idea is quite fair to all sides involved. Though either way, it is probable that future generations will have to worry about this.

 

[Unhallowed]

I think it would be a good idea to just open a second server for new players, and keep Sapphire the way it is, but updated.

 

[HitmonFonty]

I fully support a fresh start if we ever go out of beta. It doesn't make sense to me to bring a whole lot of baggage along from the test version of the game. Granted a lot of us have put a lot of time and effort into making that baggage but it's still baggage. And keeping the old server alive for us to continue to use this version indefinitely is a great compromise.

 

[Saric]

And so, you would ruin the effort of those who spent thousand of dollars to get tokens and get certain Pokemon with it. I already said in the past and I can only repeat: This would be simply unacceptable, and you would lose about 50% of your community instantly, from which 90% would be veterans.

Wipes are commonplace when a game gets out of beta. Why should this one be any different?

 

[RevengeOfTheWaterBottle]

I like the idea, actually. There is so much illegal money and pokemon in the game.
It'd be best to wipe it after a lot of easier exploits are taken care of.

 

[Jinji]

And so, you would ruin the effort of those who spent thousand of dollars to get tokens and get certain Pokemon with it. I already said in the past and I can only repeat: This would be simply unacceptable, and you would lose about 50% of your community instantly, from which 90% would be veterans.

Wipes are commonplace when a game gets out of beta. Why should this one be any different?

Some MMO betas even wipe accounts DURING the beta period, sometimes several times. But we at PWO vowed long ago never to do that unless it is really the only option, as a courtesy to all our players and as a response to how frustrating data wipes can be.

 

[ScruffyHusky]

And so, you would ruin the effort of those who spent thousand of dollars to get tokens and get certain Pokemon with it. I already said in the past and I can only repeat: This would be simply unacceptable, and you would lose about 50% of your community instantly, from which 90% would be veterans.

Wipes are commonplace when a game gets out of beta. Why should this one be any different?

Mainly because other games don't stay in beta for this long?

 

[Thychiz]

Oh, who cares? I have little respect for those who donate only to get advantages over others. If they lose their store-bought Pokemon, they just have to suck it up - after all, they still helped keep PWO up, didn't they? O

On the other hand, the "keep beta server, add empty normal server" idea is quite fair to all sides involved. Though either way, it is probable that future generations will have to worry about this.

I donate to help support the game, and to get the cool looking shinies I wanted, Not to "win". +15 IV pokemon do not give you an "advantage" over people who battle with epics. So give it a rest.
Don't forget it's not only the "store bought" pokemon that you so clearly loathe, The people who spent months or even years farming a S VR or S HR will lose them as-well

Indeed you did. But i is important to influence you as much as possible

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Mainly because other games don't stay in beta for this long?

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[Pansy]

Oh, who cares? I have little respect for those who donate only to get advantages over others. If they lose their store-bought Pokemon, they just have to suck it up - after all, they still helped keep PWO up, didn't they? O

On the other hand, the "keep beta server, add empty normal server" idea is quite fair to all sides involved. Though either way, it is probable that future generations will have to worry about this.

I donate to help support the game, and to get the cool looking shinies I wanted, Not to "win". +15 IV pokemon do not give you an "advantage" over people who battle with epics. So give it a rest.
Don't forget it's not only the "store bought" pokemon that you so clearly loathe, The people who spent months or even years farming a S VR or S HR will lose them as-well

Indeed you did. But i is important to influence you as much as possible

Thychiz likes this post.

Mainly because other games don't stay in beta for this long?

Thychiz likes this post.

This is not Facebook. There is no need to for it.

 

[Thychiz]

Oh, who cares? I have little respect for those who donate only to get advantages over others. If they lose their store-bought Pokemon, they just have to suck it up - after all, they still helped keep PWO up, didn't they? O

On the other hand, the "keep beta server, add empty normal server" idea is quite fair to all sides involved. Though either way, it is probable that future generations will have to worry about this.

I donate to help support the game, and to get the cool looking shinies I wanted, Not to "win". +15 IV pokemon do not give you an "advantage" over people who battle with epics. So give it a rest.
Don't forget it's not only the "store bought" pokemon that you so clearly loathe, The people who spent months or even years farming a S VR or S HR will lose them as-well

Indeed you did. But i is important to influence you as much as possible

Thychiz likes this post.

Mainly because other games don't stay in beta for this long?

Thychiz likes this post.

This is not Facebook. There is no need to for it.

Stating that I agree with somebody's post? ... Okay no worries, won't happen again CG.

 

[Pansy]

Oh, who cares? I have little respect for those who donate only to get advantages over others. If they lose their store-bought Pokemon, they just have to suck it up - after all, they still helped keep PWO up, didn't they? O

On the other hand, the "keep beta server, add empty normal server" idea is quite fair to all sides involved. Though either way, it is probable that future generations will have to worry about this.

I donate to help support the game, and to get the cool looking shinies I wanted, Not to "win". +15 IV pokemon do not give you an "advantage" over people who battle with epics. So give it a rest.
Don't forget it's not only the "store bought" pokemon that you so clearly loathe, The people who spent months or even years farming a S VR or S HR will lose them as-well

Indeed you did. But i is important to influence you as much as possible

Thychiz likes this post.

Mainly because other games don't stay in beta for this long?

Thychiz likes this post.

This is not Facebook. There is no need to for it.

Stating that I agree with somebody's post? ... Okay no worries, won't happen again CG.

A simple 'I agree with both Merse and ScruffyHusky' will do

 

[Merse]

A wipe would be understandable, if
1) there wouldn't have been tokens, membership etc, which encouraged people to spend money on this game - even in the form of donation,
2) if the game wouldn't be in beta for several years. During this time many players spent more than one thousand hours with this game! They literally spent months (day and night) with leveling, hunting, trading. GhostofSanity spent the half of his PWO career in the Powerplant to get a S Pikachu.

If you would ask those who spent so much time and in some cases money, if would they go back to play through the well-known path of the 16 (24? 32?) gyms, if they would want to spend months on finding a S VR/HR, if they would throw away everything what they worked on so hard, I'm sure all of them would say no.
Or they have another choice: They could become second-grade players with an old server with limited maintenance and limited, next to nothing updates.
I know I would chose a third option: I would quit.
I think the devs should make a vote about this, just to test the option of the community

Calling PWO a Beta is a great excuse for the bugs, the severs issues, the lack of other regions, the broken moves etc. But we must face the fact: PWO is up for too long to be considered a beta. Let's call it what it is: A great game with a rich history, but with bugs, mistakes, and fortunately many many room for further development. But beta? NO WAY!

 

[Boora]

before you rage and start panicking, with the rate the updates are coming i assume that the game will go out of beta in at least 2-3 years or more
new client,hoen,the crashes and TONS and TONS of backround work that we as players dont even know about
and ontop of all o that, i Highly doubt that the Staff will wipe all the accounts unless they HAVE NO CHOICE
because there's no point in doing so, if the "Alpha" version cant support the old database, there's no point in keeping it , cause there will hardly be people on the new server
everyone will rather stick to the old one and the stuff they have.
that's why i think if they cant move the database to the "alpha" server when ever its ready, just wipe it, no point in keeping 2 servers it'll just devide the players