thunderclap
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Has anyone ever gotten any significant cashback from their Crystal bank account? How does it work - what type of purchases are eligible? The bank account page says there's a max payout of 50 million Pd per month. I've never received enough Pd to notice any gains at all, even when spending a lot and paying close attention to my money. Pretty sure only fees like the 25pd listing fee are currently eligible for cashback, so the most you ever get is a few hundred Pd. It'd be nice if this system was better utilized, as it was originally intended. It has significant potential since we have such stagnant trade and lack of money in the economy.
I propose that the cashback percentage would apply to all Pokemon purchases on the Mart, if abuse could be prevented. For example, buying a $15M pokemon from the mart would give you $1.05M cashback (that's 7% with a Crystal bank account). To prevent abuse, we just need a probationary waiting period (let's say 90 days) before cashback is paid, and a final check. If the pokemon is traded again during that waiting period, the reseller gets no cashback, the delay timer resets (if sold on mart), and the new buyer must keep it for 90 days to get paid the cashback. Theoretically two conspiring people could still abuse the system by trading a pokemon back and forth every 180 days to double dip on cashbacks, but few would risk that if it's a bannable offense.
As far as method of implementation/coding difficulty, it should be trivial to extend the qualifying purchase types to include mart pokemon. The slightly harder part would be keeping track of the 90 day probationary period for each pokemon to prevent abuse.
One way this could work with minimal coding would be as follows. Create a new tab on the "My Mart" page called "Pending Cashback". On this page, any pokemon you had bought on the mart in the last 90 days would be displayed. It would look exactly like you were selling each of those pokemon, each at the 7% cashback price. Clicking the pokemon will take you to another page with the time remaining, seller, price paid, etc (similar to existing Mart pages). A final check by Playerdex would be performed when the timer expires to ensure the "Current Trainer" is still you, and if it matches, you get the payout.
If you sell that pokemon during the 90 days on the mart, it will be automatically added to the new buyer's "Pending Cashback" page, and thus removed from yours. It will search and update your page similar to how Adverts works: Right now when a pokemon with an active Advert is traded, it says "Pokemon no longer available" on that advert page. It's not necessary to collect a pokemon from your Advert box to use it in-game or to sell it. The same search-algorithm that Adverts uses can be re-used.
If you sell it in-game, nobody gets cashback, and it won't be removed from your Pending Cashback page until Playerdex does its periodic Advert-style cleanup search to check to see if the Current Trainer name still matches. That'll mean your list won't always be current (there will be a warning stating this). The advantage of this is that your pokemon won't be held hostage in a Global Link box awaiting cashback -- you will be free to use it in game exactly like any other pokemon. You could even still trade the pokemon in-game, and that wouldn't create an exploitable loophole because only pokemon bought/sold on the Mart would be eligible for cashbacks. Trading it in-game would just mean you and the buyer lose any potential cashbacks from the trade.
Summary of necessary changes. Minimal new code should be needed:
1. Extend cashback to include Pokemon mart purchases.
2. Add a tab on My Mart page to display "Adverts" for all pokemon you have bought on Mart in the last 90 days, with "sale" prices equal to 7% of the purchase price.
3. Clone Mart page and use it for recently bought/cashback tracking as a Moderator tool... see screenshot in my 2nd post.
4. Playerdex does a periodic search to check if you still own the pokemon that is awaiting cashback payment (using the same search routine Adverts uses) to remove any pokemon traded in-game or released off your list. This is just for informational purposes to keep things updated.
5. Any time a pokemon is sold on the Mart, trigger a manual Advert-style availability search for both buyer and seller to instantly update their My Mart pending page.
6. Just before any payout, when the 90 day timer expires, Playerdex performs a final check to ensure Current Trainer still matches. (It currently checks Mart Logs I'm guessing - just a slight modification needed?)
This expanded cashback system would provide extra incentive for those high-value very rare pokemon to change hands more often. Not trading would be like (real-world example) keeping all your savings in a zero-interest chequing account instead of investing/keeping up with inflation.
And yes, introducing Pd from thin air would create some inflationary pressure. But that's not a dirty word, it's actually HEALTHY in an economy to have some inflation. Currently all prices are in free-fall which is deflation, ie. bad. Deflation means money gains value over time, so buying anything at current market price equals a loss over time. The current system rewards those who hoard money, and contributes to the huge wealth divide we now see.
BTW The only reason I haven't suggested including items for cashback is there's no trackable ID# to prevent abuse.. if anyone can think of a workable system for item cashback safe from abuse, it would be great to have that as well.
Thanks for reading. Got a little carried away with the details on this one. Any thoughts/suggestions/improvements?
I propose that the cashback percentage would apply to all Pokemon purchases on the Mart, if abuse could be prevented. For example, buying a $15M pokemon from the mart would give you $1.05M cashback (that's 7% with a Crystal bank account). To prevent abuse, we just need a probationary waiting period (let's say 90 days) before cashback is paid, and a final check. If the pokemon is traded again during that waiting period, the reseller gets no cashback, the delay timer resets (if sold on mart), and the new buyer must keep it for 90 days to get paid the cashback. Theoretically two conspiring people could still abuse the system by trading a pokemon back and forth every 180 days to double dip on cashbacks, but few would risk that if it's a bannable offense.
As far as method of implementation/coding difficulty, it should be trivial to extend the qualifying purchase types to include mart pokemon. The slightly harder part would be keeping track of the 90 day probationary period for each pokemon to prevent abuse.
One way this could work with minimal coding would be as follows. Create a new tab on the "My Mart" page called "Pending Cashback". On this page, any pokemon you had bought on the mart in the last 90 days would be displayed. It would look exactly like you were selling each of those pokemon, each at the 7% cashback price. Clicking the pokemon will take you to another page with the time remaining, seller, price paid, etc (similar to existing Mart pages). A final check by Playerdex would be performed when the timer expires to ensure the "Current Trainer" is still you, and if it matches, you get the payout.
If you sell that pokemon during the 90 days on the mart, it will be automatically added to the new buyer's "Pending Cashback" page, and thus removed from yours. It will search and update your page similar to how Adverts works: Right now when a pokemon with an active Advert is traded, it says "Pokemon no longer available" on that advert page. It's not necessary to collect a pokemon from your Advert box to use it in-game or to sell it. The same search-algorithm that Adverts uses can be re-used.
If you sell it in-game, nobody gets cashback, and it won't be removed from your Pending Cashback page until Playerdex does its periodic Advert-style cleanup search to check to see if the Current Trainer name still matches. That'll mean your list won't always be current (there will be a warning stating this). The advantage of this is that your pokemon won't be held hostage in a Global Link box awaiting cashback -- you will be free to use it in game exactly like any other pokemon. You could even still trade the pokemon in-game, and that wouldn't create an exploitable loophole because only pokemon bought/sold on the Mart would be eligible for cashbacks. Trading it in-game would just mean you and the buyer lose any potential cashbacks from the trade.
Summary of necessary changes. Minimal new code should be needed:
1. Extend cashback to include Pokemon mart purchases.
2. Add a tab on My Mart page to display "Adverts" for all pokemon you have bought on Mart in the last 90 days, with "sale" prices equal to 7% of the purchase price.
3. Clone Mart page and use it for recently bought/cashback tracking as a Moderator tool... see screenshot in my 2nd post.
4. Playerdex does a periodic search to check if you still own the pokemon that is awaiting cashback payment (using the same search routine Adverts uses) to remove any pokemon traded in-game or released off your list. This is just for informational purposes to keep things updated.
5. Any time a pokemon is sold on the Mart, trigger a manual Advert-style availability search for both buyer and seller to instantly update their My Mart pending page.
6. Just before any payout, when the 90 day timer expires, Playerdex performs a final check to ensure Current Trainer still matches. (It currently checks Mart Logs I'm guessing - just a slight modification needed?)
This expanded cashback system would provide extra incentive for those high-value very rare pokemon to change hands more often. Not trading would be like (real-world example) keeping all your savings in a zero-interest chequing account instead of investing/keeping up with inflation.
And yes, introducing Pd from thin air would create some inflationary pressure. But that's not a dirty word, it's actually HEALTHY in an economy to have some inflation. Currently all prices are in free-fall which is deflation, ie. bad. Deflation means money gains value over time, so buying anything at current market price equals a loss over time. The current system rewards those who hoard money, and contributes to the huge wealth divide we now see.
BTW The only reason I haven't suggested including items for cashback is there's no trackable ID# to prevent abuse.. if anyone can think of a workable system for item cashback safe from abuse, it would be great to have that as well.
Thanks for reading. Got a little carried away with the details on this one. Any thoughts/suggestions/improvements?
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